Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
traces indicielles
English translation:
tokens, indicative markers
Added to glossary by
Wyley Powell
Dec 17, 2015 22:14
8 yrs ago
French term
Canada
traces indicielles
French to English
Other
History
First Nations
This is a text about wampum:
"Les wampums sont des objets, d’abord symboliques, qui marquent des engagements politiques, diplomatiques et sociaux. S’ils font office de ***traces indicielles*** qui marquent les liens unissant plusieurs partis, ils trouveront rapidement une fonction de monnaie d’échange dans les colonies."
Merci d'avance.
"Les wampums sont des objets, d’abord symboliques, qui marquent des engagements politiques, diplomatiques et sociaux. S’ils font office de ***traces indicielles*** qui marquent les liens unissant plusieurs partis, ils trouveront rapidement une fonction de monnaie d’échange dans les colonies."
Merci d'avance.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +3 | tokens, indicative markers |
pennylyd
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| 4 | Early indexes |
Anglofrancais
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| 4 | symbols |
kashew
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| 3 -2 | index/matrix traces/tracing |
Verginia Ophof
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Proposed translations
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Selected
tokens, indicative markers
they are used as tokens, indicative markers of the ties which unite various parties...
I feel this gives a sense of what the sentence is trying to say - they were originally not really money, just tokens or pledges which then became used as a sort of currency.
I agree with one of the other respondent that I don't think it is intended as a technical term
I feel this gives a sense of what the sentence is trying to say - they were originally not really money, just tokens or pledges which then became used as a sort of currency.
I agree with one of the other respondent that I don't think it is intended as a technical term
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks very much."
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2 hrs
Verginia Ophof
Belize
Belize
Native in English
Specializes in field
Belize
Near Native Proficiency in Source langua
Native in: English
Works in: Portuguese to English, Dutch to English, French to English
index/matrix traces/tracing
suggestion
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Anglofrancais
: I disagree that this link is helpful. The source text is talking about early forms of money in colonial times. Certainly, if Wyley can confirm that the text was written before 2014, the reference isn't to TRACE International's index
7 hrs
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| disagree |
B D Finch
: This is about the pre-monetary significance of wampum.
9 hrs
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10 hrs
Anglofrancais
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
United Kingdom
Linguist looking for experience
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: French to English
Early indexes
Traces indicielles = traces of an index/signs of an index, better put as early indexes
The term refers to the fact that the wampum were the early index, that determined relative values between the colonies.
I am confident that 'Trace Indicielle' is NOT a technical term in this context.
The term refers to the fact that the wampum were the early index, that determined relative values between the colonies.
I am confident that 'Trace Indicielle' is NOT a technical term in this context.
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
B D Finch
: No, once it became an "index", rather than an "indicator", it had lost its affective meaning and become a type of money.
1 hr
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13 hrs
symbols
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