Glossary entry

Czech term or phrase:

kozí rohy

English translation:

Goat Horn Peppers (hot)

Added to glossary by Maria Chmelarova
Jan 7, 2010 15:24
14 yrs ago
Czech term
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Jan 12, 2010 23:27: Maria Chmelarova Created KOG entry

Discussion

Gerry Vickers Jan 15, 2010:
Just as a post script to this discussion - I was shopping in my local Aldi today and I bought a jar of peppers which were identical in ALL RESPECTS to what I know as 'kozi rohy' and they were called 'Lombardi peppers' Delicious :)
Rad Graban (X) Jan 7, 2010:
@Lenka Thanks for the link. It really helped. I'm just saying that any long-ish chili or pepper (because there are so many varieties) seem to be "barani" or "kozi" roh back home. :~)))
Lenka Green (asker) Jan 7, 2010:
well, the truth is that I only have the expression "kozí rohy" - it is on a menu. I have no idea how it should look or taste. The link to the pictures is just something I was hoping to help my colleagues here to understand what I am talking about :)
Rad Graban (X) Jan 7, 2010:
IMO, we will never resolve this problem. From Lenka's reference link, "kozi rohy" come in all sorts of shapes and colours which - from other links provided during discussion - shouldn't be the case.
There are too many varieties and I just think that for Czechs and Slovaks, anything resemling pepper/chili, but
longer in shape, is kozi or barani roh. :~)))
Scott Evan Andrews Jan 7, 2010:
hey Gerry, when you're right you're right.;) My problem is I just love peppers...lived in Texas 3 years, grew some great Seranos in Zlin a couple years back. Also have a friend passionate about growing them - 30 types last year. He suggests we go the seed route and sent me here: www.semillas.de
.. but I do want this question solved accurately once and for all so we all know...
Gerry Vickers Jan 7, 2010:
Scott - see my entry below :)
Scott Evan Andrews Jan 7, 2010:
Igor is right...and check this help from Turkey! check this link out, for those of you not bored to tears yet...

http://www.etae.gov.tr/capsicum/browse_capsicum_db.php?limit...

because as you scroll down in column RECEIVAS to Beros, which I'm sure we can agree through Igor's link is the one and the same, there's yet another link to this back in CR:

http://genbank.vurv.cz/genetic/resources/asp2/default_c.htm
which is the Documentation of Plant Genetic Resources - Czech Information System on Plant Genetic Resources (EVIGEZ)...There I got stymied so far in my search... but good luck.
Igor Liba Jan 7, 2010:
Samozrejme ze ich dostat na trhu bezne cerstve a pestuju sa aj v malom aj vo velkom a aj ludovo sa nazvyvaju baranie rohy(nepalia) a kozie rohy (palive), pricom ide (aj tvarovo) o iny druh papriky nez su feferony. Lenka uviedla "type of pepper".
Gerry Vickers Jan 7, 2010:
@rad ditto what Scott says ... :)
Scott Evan Andrews Jan 7, 2010:

Musim priznat ze Maria i Rad G. maji pravdu v tom, ze mohou klidne byt cerstve, a tim padem pickled nepokryje vsechno, tudiz neni spravne...take jsem je videl na trhu cerstve vlastne.., ale naprosto vetsina tech rohu prichazi na trh v nalevu, mozna chce to uzsi kontext. Troufnu si rict, ze kdyz Cech ci Slovak mysli na kozi rohy a vidi je v hlave, byvaji v nalevu
Rad Graban (X) Jan 7, 2010:
@Gerry and Scott How do you guys know, without any context, that the asker is talking about pickled stuff and not fresh?
Igor Liba Jan 7, 2010:
Maria Chmelarova Jan 7, 2010:
otázka je kozie rohy (type/cultivar)
a nie kozie rohy v náleve (pickled), or sušené (dry), mleté (powder)
Scott Evan Andrews Jan 7, 2010:
Pickled is indeed the correct term http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickling
Maria Chmelarova Jan 7, 2010:
here is more for our own info-confusion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_capsicum_cultivars.htm
Gerry Vickers Jan 7, 2010:
@scott 'we all may be over-analysing this' - what else did you expect? Light the blue touch paper and stand back ... :))
Scott Evan Andrews Jan 7, 2010:
Veronika's response As to Maria's question of what kind...I don't know of a food producer that puts the Latin name of the particular pepper on its jar..there's simply "fefaroni" or Kozi or Berani rohy, hotovo. And that's what the translator has to go with...we all may be over-analysing this.
Scott Evan Andrews Jan 7, 2010:
it's tricky If you've had the "kozi rohy" that I've had from say Kaufland or whereever, they are labeled both "hot" and "mild", but the hot isn't even a 5 on a scale of 1-10. If you know peppers you know what I mean...disappointing little buggers actually.I'm hesitant to agree with Ivan because at four consecutive websites I've found this "Goat Horn" pepper (Family: Solanaceae Genus: Capsicum Species: annuum Cultivar: Goat Horn) claiming them to be peppers either from Hungary or China, but both supposedly quite hot...don't know if this helps clear or muddy the waters... (http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/72474/)
I can say that Verca's answer can't be wrong in anyway, unless somebody out there is used to eating kozi rohy another way...

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Goat Horn Peppers (hot)

www.evergreenseeds.com

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One more time.
In my opinion it is important not only a shape of peppers but more important is, for recipes, if peppers are hot or sweet.
"Kozi roh" - Goat Horn is hot pepper and Banana and spp. (type, hybrids) are sweet.
Goat Horn - the fruit is long/longer/prolonged and slim/-mer, not as Bell boy or Banana, which are sweet and chubbier if you wish.

Chili pepers are mostly small in size and hot.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Scott Evan Andrews : These GH peppers are hot! http://www.backyardgardener.com/plantname/pda_199a.html. Kozi rohy are not.
47 mins
they are hot too!
agree Igor Liba : http://www.tradewindsfruitstore.com/servlet/the-1450/Goat-Ho...
1 hr
Dakujem, Igor.
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pickled peppers

a dle druhu (feferonky atp.) pak přizpůsobit
Peer comment(s):

disagree Maria Chmelarova : esp. with pickled, what kind of peppers
36 mins
neutral Rad Graban (X) : Not sure about "pickled" without more context. They are readily available also fresh in the UK, for example.
1 hr
disagree Igor Liba : pickled?
1 hr
agree Gerry Vickers : Yes - this is fine if it is on a menu as they are usually pickled ...
2 hrs
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15 mins

chilli peppers "goat horns" (also "ram horns")

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chilli se správně píše chili s jedním l
Peer comment(s):

agree Sarka Rubkova
1 min
Díky!
agree Hannah Geiger (X)
57 mins
Díky!
agree jankaisler
3 days 19 hrs
Díky, Honzo!
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51 mins

long green pepper

Just an idea.

...or Anaheim chili (or pepper)/California green chili/chili verde.
Long Green: (Hatch - New Mexican - Anaheim) chili. Fruit are from 4 - 12" long & 2" wide, green to red at maturity, but also may be yellow, orange to brown. Many different varieties abound. Range from sweet to hot. Used green as fresh, canned or frozen. Mature are usually dried and ground into chili powder or paprika if sweet. Also used in salsas.
( http://www.backyardgardener.com/veg/greenpeppers.html#misc )
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54 mins

Kozi roh pepper

If you want to get botanical/scientific about it, 'kozi roh' (minus diacritics) is actually the registered name for this type of pepper, but if this is for a menu, then pickled (goat horn) peppers or similar would be just fine IMO. When they arrive on the plate or, even better, on a wooden board alongside a vepřové koleno, it should be obvious :)

I'm with Scott on this one - they are usually described as 'hot', but I have yet to have a properly hot one (and I must have had hundreds of the things)

http://www.etae.gov.tr/capsicum/view_capsicum_db.php?ID=10
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banana peppers

Wiki lays it out pretty clearly...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_pepper
What stands out for me is that the heat depends on the maturity, i.e. earlier picked pecks of peppers aren't so piquant (but can be pickled :). That jibes with my note about heat in discussion...


The shape is the main corresponding factor here.
this is a pretty darn good look at the banana pepper...
http://scottarbor.com/shoponline/images/banana_pepper_organi...

The product I think we can all agree is like this one from Hame:
http://www.hame.cz/katalog/detail/?productId=7939


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THIN BANANA PEPPERS: After mulling it over I thought of this. If I were to explain to somebody for instance from North America what these here in Central Europe are, the closest FEEL for these peppers and thus the best translated MEANING would be thin banana peppers. That's the shape. That's the taste and heat too. BPs come a bit more acidic, but that's the brine.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Maria Chmelarova : banana peppers are shorter and more wide
7 mins
Wider kdyz tak....ban. peps. do tend to be wider, and usually come cut into rings...but are as long. Not same cultivar (Capsicum annuum has many: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capsicum_annuum), but it's the best way to explain it, and highly similar taste.
agree Gerry Vickers : near as dammit :)
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