Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

"pROvenir," used as a verb

English translation:

descend

Added to glossary by MPGS
Sep 24, 2012 16:06
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Spanish term

"porvenir," used as a verb

Spanish to English Other History Family History
"siendo ... los Talmages lo más aristocráticos ... por *porvenir* de un estirpe titulada ..."

The apparent sense is "being descended from." But all my sources list "porvenir" as a noun, relating to future events, prospects, anticipations.

The document is a family history; written, I believe, in Chile, tho the families concerned were in New England and on Long Island, New York. This part of the text has to do with "first families" of Long Island.

Archaic usage, perhaps?
Proposed translations (English)
4 +4 descend
4 descending or deriving
Change log

Sep 30, 2012 07:57: MPGS Created KOG entry

Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:

Non-PRO (2): Rosa Paredes, Evans (X)

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Discussion

bigedsenior Sep 24, 2012:
Since much of the original material for this was probably in English, there may have been a faulty translation for the word 'provenance'.
Stephen D. Moore (asker) Sep 24, 2012:
Thanks, Trudy; my apologies!
Rosa Paredes Sep 24, 2012:
"Porvenir" IS a noun, NOT a verb. It's simply a typo.
Trudy Peters Sep 24, 2012:
Please don't use quotation marks in the header. Thanks!

Proposed translations

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descend

typo:
provenir.
(Del lat. provenīre, crecer, desenvolverse).
1. intr. Dicho de una persona o de una cosa: Nacer, originarse, proceder de un lugar, de otra persona, de otra cosa, etc.
MORF. conjug. c. venir.
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Note added at 8 mins (2012-09-24 16:14:40 GMT)
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descend from ...

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Note added at 5 days (2012-09-30 07:55:51 GMT) Post-grading
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Gracias a todos
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Peer comment(s):

agree María Perales
1 min
muchas gracias, María. Saludos :)
agree philgoddard
3 mins
Thank you Phil. Best. :)
agree Monica Colangelo
23 mins
thank you, trixiemck. Best :)
agree Denise Phelps
36 mins
thank you, Denise. Best :)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks to all, and particualrly to bigedsenior, for throwing out the term "provenance."
3 mins
Spanish term (edited): \"porvenir,\" used as a verb

descending or deriving

could be a typo of "por venir de"
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