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| | | | neilmac
Spain
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Doubtful, because I'm not even sure what is AI and what isn't. For example, is machine translation software considered AI? Or speech recognition software like NS Dragon?
Last night I tried watching a video on YouTube about AI, which classified it into 5 or 6 categories, but I got fed up after the second category and stopped watching.
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Stressed by the huge number of Quick Polls on AI technology and all the cheat chat around it. I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that ChatGPT made its way into Proz (https://www.proz.com/profile/670924)…
| | | | ibz 
Local time: 17:45
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| No other interesting questions for professional human translators? | Nov 27, 2023 |
Couldn't agree more with Maria Teresa. Very annoying!
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Lieven Malaise
Belgium
Local time: 17:45
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I agree that all these AI related questions are boring as hell because they are either repetitive, either unclear, either repetitive and unclear, hence irrelevant because the answers are irrelevant.
So let's introduce a breath of fresh air about these AI nonsense. US professor in Linguistics, Emily M. Bender (Wikipedia is your friend), posted a long thread on Xitter 3 days ago, in which she basically shoots down all AI fear-mongering and over-promotion in flames. To give some contex... See more I agree that all these AI related questions are boring as hell because they are either repetitive, either unclear, either repetitive and unclear, hence irrelevant because the answers are irrelevant.
So let's introduce a breath of fresh air about these AI nonsense. US professor in Linguistics, Emily M. Bender (Wikipedia is your friend), posted a long thread on Xitter 3 days ago, in which she basically shoots down all AI fear-mongering and over-promotion in flames. To give some context : she's actually referring to the fake claim published in certain media a week or so ago that OpenAI would be on the verge of an AI breakthrough "that could potentially threaten humanity".
I'll just post the first 4 posts of her thread, to give you an idea. She goes on for 20 more posts stuffed with arguments and references against the AI hype. It's really worth it to read the whole story.
"1) With the OpenAI clownshow, there's been renewed media attention on the xrisk/"AI safety" nonsense. Personally, I've had a fresh wave of reporters asking me naive questions (+ some contacts from old hands who know how to handle ultra-rich man-children with god complexes).
2) As a quick reminder: AI doomerism is also #AIhype. The idea that synthetic text extruding machines are harbingers of AGI that is on the verge of combusting into consciousness and then turning on humanity is unscientific nonsense.
3) At the same time, it serves to suggest that the software is powerful, even magically so: if the "AI" could take over the world, it must be something amazing.
4) Journos working in this area need to be on their guard & not take the claims of the AI hypesters (doomer OR booster variety) at face value. It takes effort to reframe, effort that is necessary and important. We all must resist the urge to be impressed." ▲ Collapse
| | | | Kay Denney
France
Local time: 17:45
French to English
Suggestion for tomorrow's poll: are there any debates worth having that don't mention AI?
I have no idea of the current status of data security and privacy in AI systems. I suspect that they will be able to harvest far more information than any decent person would consider reasonable and that's just one more reason to avoid them like the plague.
I signed up to ChatGPT and asked it to write a medieval poem, I'm quite happy for ChatGPT to think I'm a professor in medieval poetry (esp... See more Suggestion for tomorrow's poll: are there any debates worth having that don't mention AI?
I have no idea of the current status of data security and privacy in AI systems. I suspect that they will be able to harvest far more information than any decent person would consider reasonable and that's just one more reason to avoid them like the plague.
I signed up to ChatGPT and asked it to write a medieval poem, I'm quite happy for ChatGPT to think I'm a professor in medieval poetry (especially since I most definitely am not). I've not used it at all since, because I don't want to give it any more information. ▲ Collapse
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To be fair, before AI came along everyone was already moaning about these polls being repetitive. Finally something new comes along that has to be worth discussing and we’re bored already…
| | | | Lieven Malaise
Belgium
Local time: 17:45
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Christopher Schröder wrote:
Finally something new comes along that has to be worth discussing and we’re bored already…
I'm actually not bored discussing AI. I'm bored reading the unsatisfying discussions that go with terribly formulated poll questions that cause multiple interpretations. It makes me think that these questions only appear for 1 reason : to generate random traffic on this website, regardless of the content.
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IrinaN
United States
Local time: 10:45
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| Bored to death | Nov 27, 2023 |
Sorry, didn't mean to hurt the feelings of AI supporters and enthusiasts.
IMHO, it's there and it's not going away, period.
| | | | Lingua 5B
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Local time: 17:45
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Lieven Malaise wrote: Christopher Schröder wrote:
Finally something new comes along that has to be worth discussing and we’re bored already… I'm actually not bored discussing AI. I'm bored reading the unsatisfying discussions that go with terribly formulated poll questions that cause multiple interpretations. It makes me think that these questions only appear for 1 reason : to generate random traffic on this website, regardless of the content.
If I may ask, since you hinted it, what would be an “interesting” way to discuss AI? I can’t see any, seems you do, I’d like to hear more.
| | | | Lieven Malaise
Belgium
Local time: 17:45
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Lingua 5B wrote:
If I may ask, since you hinted it, what would be an “interesting” way to discuss AI? I can’t see any, seems you do, I’d like to hear more.
Perhaps you can enlighten me first why you think there wouldn't exist an interesting way to discuss an inherently interesting topic like AI and its (non-)developments ?
I understand there are a few members in these forums who, not without any misplaced self-satisfaction, like to elaborate on how AI is nothing but a silly toy that will basically never mean anything to anyone (or at least not to 'serious' human beings or translators). But, honestly, if I read the nonense of such people I only see emperors without clothes. It's pathetic, really.
[Bijgewerkt op 2023-11-27 18:09 GMT]
| | | | Lingua 5B
Bosnia and Herzegovina
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So, you answer my question with a new question? I was curious to see what you perceive as interesting in it, but I didn’t get an answer. Instead, I got a long-winded talking in circles (much like GPT).
Because it has a fixed, uniformed output and writing style, it’s very limited. It produces a lot of fluff. Therefore, ultimately boring. Now, your turn.
[Edited at 2023-11-27 18:22 GMT]
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Lieven Malaise
Belgium
Local time: 17:45
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Lingua 5B wrote:
Because it has a fixed, uniformed output and writing style, it’s very limited. It produces a lot of fluff. Therefore, ultimately boring. Now, your turn.
[Edited at 2023-11-27 18:22 GMT]
Funny that you are proving my point about badly formulated questions and different interpretations. I'm talking about AI in general (as you could have known reading my initial post), you about ChatGPT in translation or copywriting. I'm out.
| | | | Lingua 5B
Bosnia and Herzegovina
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| Still no answer | Nov 27, 2023 |
Lieven Malaise wrote: Lingua 5B wrote:
Because it has a fixed, uniformed output and writing style, it’s very limited. It produces a lot of fluff. Therefore, ultimately boring. Now, your turn.
[Edited at 2023-11-27 18:22 GMT] Funny that you are proving my point about badly formulated questions and different interpretations. I'm talking about AI in general (as you could have known reading my initial post), you about ChatGPT in translation or copywriting. I'm out.
Exactly. Usually, in the real human world, if people find something interesting, they will quickly be able to provide at least one adjective or descriptive phrase as to why. As we can see, they can’t do it with AI. Wondering why.
And exactly, what else will I refer to in a translators’ forum? Shall I talk about robot vacuum cleaners or robot lawn mowers, that’s of no interest here.
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no idea. Based on my few conversations with AI within free limited access, he/she, unlike live people, doesn't deliver confidential or sensitive information
[Edited at 2023-11-27 18:56 GMT]
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