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Sep 17, 2021 08:33
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English term

That [...] be held on

Non-PRO English Other General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters
Context removed by ProZ.com staff.
Responses
5 +6 that will be voted on
5 to take place / to call
Change log

Sep 17, 2021 10:09: Rob Grayson changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"

Sep 27, 2021 22:11: Andrea Capuselli changed "Term asked" from "That ... be held on" to "That [...] be held on" , "Term Context" from "That a vote of the electors will be held on the following question under the Local Authorities Election Act: Are you in favour of reintroducing fluoridation of the municipal water supply? Canadian English" to "Context removed by ProZ.com staff."

Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:

Non-PRO (3): Tony M, Rachel Fell, Rob Grayson

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Discussion

AllegroTrans Sep 17, 2021:
@ TM Yes, these also
Tony M Sep 17, 2021:
@ A/T It was probably something like "It was decided:" or "It was decreed:" or "A resolution was passed:" etc.
AllegroTrans Sep 17, 2021:
That Must be preceded by something which makes a link; quite possibly a heading such as "agenda" or "list of proposals" or something similar
Arabic & More Sep 17, 2021:
That Is it part of a list of things that will happen?
Masoud Kakouli Varnousfaderani (asker) Sep 17, 2021:
“That” made me confused. I have never seen this usage. I know this usage: That Ali is true is obvious. But this one is new to me.
Tony M Sep 17, 2021:
@ A/T I think the problem is Asker was confused by the 'on' — we more commonly find 'to be held on [date], and here we have 'a vote to be held on [a subject]'
AllegroTrans Sep 17, 2021:
It isn't clear.... which part of the sentence is causing difficulty. Is is "a vote of the electors" or "on the following question"? Or something else?
Tony M Sep 17, 2021:
@ Asker Your parsing seems to indicate you have failed to understand the sentence structure overall.
You need to look at this as 'that a vote... will be held' and the 'on' refers to what the vote is going to be about — we often talk about taking / holding 'a vote on a particular topic, policy, etc.'

Responses

+6
4 mins
English term (edited): that ... be held on
Selected

that will be voted on

The topic that will be discussed/voted on is whether they're in favor of reintroducing fluoridation of the municipal water supply.

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Note added at 5 hrs (2021-09-17 13:37:50 GMT)
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Asker, I didn't realize your issue was with the word "that." Are you sure that this is its own sentence and not something like "...notice is hereby given THAT a vote of..."?
Peer comment(s):
agree Nadja Wieser
9 mins
Thanks!
agree Sajad Neisi
29 mins
Thanks!
agree philgoddard
52 mins
Thanks!
agree Tony M
1 hr
Thanks!
agree writeaway : Basic English. But explaining a term with the same term isn't the best way to go
1 hr
Agree with both points, but I think we're safe repeating the word "on" here.
neutral Yvonne Gallagher : "the vote will be voted on" is not exactly great English?
3 hrs
I didn't realize the Asker's issue was with "that." Thought it was with "be held on."
agree Tina Vonhof (X) : But there must be a preceding sentence possibly ending in a comma or colon. The word 'that' is then not capitalized, unless it is an item in a list of things.
7 hrs
Yup, I only capitalized to draw attention to the word. :)
neutral AllegroTrans : This does not help to explain the first "that"
8 hrs
I thought the Asker was unclear on "be held on." Once the Asker clarified in the discussion., I addressed "that" in a note under the explanation.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
19 mins
English term (edited): that ... be held on

to take place / to call

When an election is said to be "held", we mean that it is to take place.

In this context, we can also say that "an election was/will be called".

Example sentence:

"The 2019 General Election will be the first TO BE HELD in December since 1923. What was Britain like back then and how did the election turn out?"

"Can Theresa May actually CALL A snap general election?"

Reference:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50559096

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/general-election-2017-snap-vote-can-theresa-may-call-one-early-rules-parliament-a7132846.html

Peer comment(s):
neutral Tony M : Your answer fails to address Asker's actual issue, which is the 'on' here; and in any case, this is not about an election, hence 'call' is a red herring.
42 mins
neutral Yvonne Gallagher : the electors will be able to vote on the following question. It's not about an election though.
3 hrs
neutral AllegroTrans : Agree with Tony + Yvonne
3 hrs
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