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Thread poster: Hans Lenting
Hans Lenting
Hans Lenting
Netherlands
Member (2006)
German to Dutch
Dec 18, 2022

I discovered that with iOS 16.3 I can let Apple's MT engine translate webpages, like this one.

I want to explore if this is also possible with Safari on macOS.

BTW: I found that NL as a target language is available too.

Must have missed the introduction:

The Turkish, Indonesian, Polish, Dutch and Thai languages were added to the app on June 22, 2022


Currently, the following languages are supported:

Schermafbeelding 2022-12-18 om 12.37.38


[Edited at 2022-12-18 11:40 GMT]
 
Hans Lenting
Hans Lenting
Netherlands
Member (2006)
German to Dutch
TOPIC STARTER
Demo Dec 18, 2022

Here is a demo on an iPhone.
 
Hans Lenting
Hans Lenting
Netherlands
Member (2006)
German to Dutch
TOPIC STARTER
On the Mac Dec 18, 2022

Not so rosy on the Mac ...

Firstly, you have to add languages here:

1

In Safari, click on:

2

And be very disappointed that one of the most important and beautiful languages of the world, Dutch, isn't supported on the Mac.

3
 
Hans Lenting
Hans Lenting
Netherlands
Member (2006)
German to Dutch
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And there is the Apple Translate app Dec 18, 2022

With a disappointing quality. I guess that you can run it on Macs with Apple Silicon. But why would you bother.

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Hans Lenting
Hans Lenting
Netherlands
Member (2006)
German to Dutch
TOPIC STARTER
No priority Dec 19, 2022

Obviously machine translation has no priority for Apple.

With the gigantic amount of data that they collect, Apple could and should perform better with MT.

@Tim: are you listening?
 
Tom in London
Tom in London
United Kingdom
Local time: 17:06
Member (2008)
Italian to English
$$$ Dec 19, 2022

Hans Lenting wrote:

@Tim: are you listening?


Tim replies: only if it makes a lot of money

Hans Lenting
 
Hans Lenting
Hans Lenting
Netherlands
Member (2006)
German to Dutch
TOPIC STARTER
Aarrrggghhh Dec 20, 2022

Tom in London wrote:

Hans Lenting wrote:

@Tim: are you listening?


Tim replies: only if it makes a lot of money


Tim replies: only if it makes a lot of money
Tim antwortet: nur wenn es viel Geld verdient


I've posted this question in the Apple forums:

Although Apple has huge financial resources and large amounts of data collected via Siri, Apple's machine translation is really underwhelming, for example compared to the results of DeepL.

Moreover, I can't use my native language Dutch on macOS like I can on iOS.

How come?


[Edited at 2022-12-20 09:56 GMT]
 


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