Glossary entry

Portuguese term or phrase:

centimetragem

English translation:

column inches

Added to glossary by amj_services (X)
Aug 20, 2005 18:53
18 yrs ago
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Portuguese term

centimetragem

Portuguese to English Marketing Advertising / Public Relations communication strategies
Proposta de Estratégias de Comunicação

This part is where the company explains to the client what they are going to do to improve the client's relationship with the media.

Context:

"Elaboração de relatório quantitativo das matérias veiculadas na mídia

Periodicidade: trimestral

Conteúdo:
número de matérias (positivas e negativas)
por **centimetragem** (positivas e negativas)
**centimetragem** por estado, veículo e assunto
por número de leitores
gerada pela FSB ou espontânea
por tipo de matéria (nota, reportagem, artigo, etc.)
comparativo com trimestre anterior"

O Dicionário Aurelio diz:
Espaço ocupado por anúncio publicado em jornal, expresso em colunas (largura) por centímetros (altura).

Prezados Colegas:
Qual é a traducao exacta da palavra centimetragem ao ingles??
Obrigada!
Proposed translations (English)
4 +2 column inches
5 +1 advertising space in columns per centimeter
4 +1 position

Discussion

Non-ProZ.com Aug 21, 2005:
Thanks for the observation Jane.
I understand what you say about inches/centimeters, and under another circumstances, I would have followed your suggestions.
But may be if I give you more info you'll understand what I mean.
This communication strategies have been designed for a Buddhist Temple in Sao Paulo (marketing has no limits! ;-) )
They have received attacks by sectors in the media that are completely ignorant about their teachings and philosophy, so they are trying to improve their image in the community mostly a huge marketing campaign to make people know what Buddhism is really about and encouraging their participation.
So as some "executives" of this Temple apparently live abroad, their Brazilian peers want to tell them what it's all about. In the end, what's important here is that they just need to know that there will be quarterly reports about the temple's presence in the media, in a format (column inches) they would easily understand.
Well... I hope it's clear enough to understand...! Thank you again! :-)
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X) Aug 20, 2005:
Well, if you are informing "foreign branches", I would be careful in changing company policy from centimeters to inches. It's a completely different measuring system, don't you think? Don't you think you would be misinforming the overseas units?? :)
Non-ProZ.com Aug 20, 2005:
Thank you so much for your help!
Considering the text I am translating, the answer that fits best here is "column inches". Although it has been designed by a Brazilian company, this presentation is not intended to sell advertising space but to inform foreign branches about the necessary steps to be taken to improve the company's image before the media.


Proposed translations

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column inches


Column Inches Company Profile ... Agency Name, Column Inches, Market Specialisations . Enquiries Contact . ... Would you recommend Column Inches? ...
www.actimedia.com/agency/Column Inches.htm -

What are column inches. keywords=advertising, ad, commercial, views, mass media ... and column copy (text) is often measured in terms of column inches. ...
mediagods.com/glossary/What_are_column_inches.html


Ads are measured using column inches. A column inch is a unit of space one ... On the six column page above, the total available column inches would equal ...
http://graphicdesign.spokanefalls.edu/tutorials/tech/column_...
Peer comment(s):

agree rhandler : Column centimeters, of course
19 hrs
Thank you - BTW in the UK we spell it 'centimetre'!
agree Henrique Magalhaes : Agree w/ 'cm'...the metric system of measuring is become universal...
21 hrs
Thanks Henrique - I know cms are all over the place, but column inches is such a set expression in English - that PR firm cited in the link wouldn't get so far if it called itself column centimetres -and in the US they still measure weight in lbs.,etc!
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19 mins

position

This is how I interpret it. :)

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Note added at 20 mins (2005-08-20 19:13:52 GMT)
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Here's one example in case it helps:

BOCC - Biblioteca On-line de Ciências da Comunicação - [ Translate this page ]
The ideological categories in use, in other words, position us in ... não utilizaremos
o critério de centimetragem mas o de páginas: se em uma página há ...
www.bocc.ubi.pt/pag/ _texto.php?html2=simonetti-joao-capixaba-e-o-outro.html - 347k - Cached - Similar pages

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Note added at 1 hr 15 mins (2005-08-20 20:08:58 GMT)
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Precise position or exact placement.
Peer comment(s):

agree Claudio Mazotti : faz sentido...
9 mins
Grata klausin : )
neutral James Cook : space volume in centimeters
59 mins
I am going to have to think about this! I was aiming for a simpler and more "universal" term in this particular spot as opposed to other places where this is probably specified in detail. Thanks though James.
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2 hrs

advertising space in columns per centimeter

In the US and the UK [I think], advertising space is sold in columns per inch...Obviously, here it's columns per centimeter. Perhaps there is some other norm, like Picas, that could be used...

here are examples in English: You can't just say inches when the Portuguese says Centimeters..it don't work like that [I am using Don't on purpose]

Advertising Rates Monthly Earned Retail Rates 1501 inches up.........$7 per inch ... Column Size 11 picas or 1.75 inches Impression Space Per Page ...
www.loganbanner.com/advertising/index.cfm - 22k - Cached - Similar pages


California Job Journal - For EmployersOpen Rate (includes color) - $165 per inch Note: Column width for tabloid SAU ... Minimum display space is 4 inches high.* Display advertisements are billed ...
www.jobjournal.com/employers_cjj_rates.asp - 25k - Aug 18, 2005 - Cached - Similar pages


Volante OnlineColumn inches per year, Local rate/inch, National rate/inch. 100, $5.45, $8.95 ... Advertising space may be bought by the whole column inch only. ...
www.volanteonline.com/main.cfm?include=ad_rates - 52k - Cached - Similar pages




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Note added at 2 hrs 46 mins (2005-08-20 21:40:04 GMT)
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Look: All of these 'units' are perfectly acceptable, although some of them
are unusual.

However, specialized units like this are sometimes selected in order
to make quantities easy to visualize. For example, newspapers and
magazines sell advertising space not in terms of 'square inches', but
in terms of 'column-inches',[In Your case, Column-centimeters] which measure the area of a column -
however wide that turns out to be for a given publication - one inch
long.


Final: column-centimeters [see the UK example}



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Note added at 2 hrs 49 mins (2005-08-20 21:42:33 GMT)
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Here is a Canadian example and a UK [I think it is UK]


... form of a rough measurement of column centimeters of text (35cm., for example) ... is on page 8 and is approximately ***39 column centimeters in length***. ...
library.usask.ca/spcoll/srsd/journals/perceptions/intro - 13k - Cached - Similar pages


anyway, your answer is Column-centimeters [ of advertising space]
Peer comment(s):

agree Rachel Fell : well, yes, column centimetres as it's for Portugal - in Eng. you'd say you're aiming to get the clients more column inches, etc./I suppose it depends on how it's going to be used and to whom addressed but I see your point
21 mins
no Rachel..the publication is in a metric system country. it is the actual plan. You can't just switch measuring systems like that. It is a major translation error. really.
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